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 Post subject: Euyonamus
PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 4:13 pm 
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We have a couple of neighbors who let this ground like stuff go wild. Some of it has stalks about 2-3 inches in diameter. Anyway, it grows under the soil and will put show up everywhere. How do I keep it on their side of the fences? We have steadily pushed it back (for 3 years) but its coming back . It chokes everything out including our day lilies and blackberries and trees. It is such a parasite it has killed two large trees in our yard-which is why we declared war on it. Help? We tried some paint on brush killer but it doesn't work on the whole plant. This stuff is like Kudzu and ought to be outlawed.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 9:10 pm 
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This is why I would never live in town. Does your area have a noxious
weed department. First talk to the neighbors and see what it is then
yes declare war, call in the specialist.


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 Post subject: noxious weed
PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 8:06 pm 
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If the stocks are woody in appearance your probably going to need a spray that requires a licence. Using any thing else will just cause the plant to beat you up for getting it wet. I can think of several noxious weeds with larger stocks but none that should be able to take out a mature tree. At least not very quickly. It would be helpful to have a discription of the leaves, Blooms etc or better yet a picture.


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 Post subject: Re: noxious weed
PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 8:14 pm 
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If the stocks are woody in appearance your probably going to need a spray that requires a licence. Using any thing else will just cause the plant to beat you up for getting it wet. I can think of several noxious weeds with larger stocks but none that should be able to take out a mature tree. At least not very quickly. It would be helpful to have a discription of the leaves, Blooms etc or better yet a picture.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euonymus

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 8:55 pm 
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Is it a burning bush, or another species?

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 Post subject: Euonymus
PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 11:09 pm 
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Thanks Gern_B for the wikipedia info. When I was reading ks twister's post they used euonymus as a subject and ground stuff as well as kudzu as a description. I was drawing the conclusion they realy did not know for sure what it was.


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 Post subject: Re: Euonymus
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fly wrote:
Thanks Gern_B for the wikipedia info. When I was reading ks twister's post they used euonymus as a subject and ground stuff as well as kudzu as a description. I was drawing the conclusion they realy did not know for sure what it was.


No prob. I think I was taking a different interpretation of the original post. :grin:

If you do have a recommendation on getting rid of very small trees - above seedling but not to sapling stage yet, I'd love to hear it. My yard is such a mess! I'm really motivated to do something about it this year!

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 Post subject: small trees
PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 2:38 am 
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I sure wished I had good news for you that did not involve manual labor.
The good stuff like Tordon 22K you have to have a state license to buy in quanity. Buy the way this is the same type of stuff that KS twister is probably going to need. You can find herbacides that are for woody stalked plants across the counter but it is usually so week it is just a pain.
If you get drip off, overspray or wind drift it usualy will kill what you do not want killed and can make unhappy neighbors and the items you wanted destroyed will still be smiling at you.

I prefer not to use poisons so I dig mine. Even if you posion them you will have to dig up the stubs if you want them gone before your next birthday.

I know people who have used everything from brine water to copper sulfate but I do not think leaching that type of stuff into your yard or garden area ends well.

Sorry I was not full of better advise and good luck.


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I thought that was Virginia Creeper.

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 Post subject: Re: small trees
PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 2:35 pm 
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fly wrote:
I sure wished I had good news for you that did not involve manual labor.
The good stuff like Tordon 22K you have to have a state license to buy in quanity. Buy the way this is the same type of stuff that KS twister is probably going to need. You can find herbacides that are for woody stalked plants across the counter but it is usually so week it is just a pain.
If you get drip off, overspray or wind drift it usualy will kill what you do not want killed and can make unhappy neighbors and the items you wanted destroyed will still be smiling at you.

I prefer not to use poisons so I dig mine. Even if you posion them you will have to dig up the stubs if you want them gone before your next birthday.

I know people who have used everything from brine water to copper sulfate but I do not think leaching that type of stuff into your yard or garden area ends well.

Sorry I was not full of better advise and good luck.


It's all good. I had a gut feeling it would involve lots of manual labor :sad:

Oh well. It isn't as though I can't use the exercise! :lol:

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 Post subject: small trees
PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 4:55 pm 
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Before you decide to abuse your body to much you might try pre watering the area where your going to be working. You do not probably want to be digging in mud but soft damp ground allows you to snag more of the tap root. If the tree is bigger than you think underground you may save sore muscles by having a saw capable of cutting the horizontial roots as well as the tap root. You can do that on smaller trees as well but if you do not get them deep enough they will grow back. I cheat and use a sawsall but you should know it can be hard on the saw doing that.


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 Post subject: euonymus
PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 9:22 pm 
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Sorry everyone for the last reply I was out of town. But I can tell you the link Dorothy posted is exactly the stuff this is! Some of the Woody trunks in the neighbors yards are as much as 5-7 inches in diameter. The new growth is small green leaves that just barely cover the ground. It is very invasive, it kills anything it grows close to and usually chokes it out at the roots first. One plant in my yard I removed left a hole in a walnut tree base about the size of a basketball-it rots away at the tree. So now I will try to decide what to do,the freeze did not kill it at all.
Please note, I have found this plant at green houses to use in landscaping usually as a small bush to start with. PLEASE don't buy it, you will regret it.


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 Post subject: Euonymus
PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 11:22 pm 
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Just a thought. Have you talked to your neighbors? Maybe they are as sick of this stuff as you are and might help.


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 Post subject: stupid weed
PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 6:01 pm 
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Talked with the neighbors, they blame it on the city. They said it started in the easement area first,then they just gave up. Will call the city but I don't think they will do anything. Any ideas as to what to expect? Can I use brush killer on the easement border?


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 Post subject: brush junk
PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 10:20 pm 
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Will do, thanks for the info.


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 Post subject: stupid weed
PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 8:25 pm 
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My neighbor cleared a large patch of this stuff in his yard today and it revealed the most beautiful large rock wall that was well laid out---with stairs!!. It is just so neat! We are now so jealous. He doesn't like the stuff either. Two to go.


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 Post subject: Purple Wintercreeper Euonymus
PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 9:34 pm 
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I think you might have Purple Wintercreeper, which is sold as a groundcover, but is considered a noxious weed in many places for obvious reasons! When it climbs, it forms fruits that are then dispersed by birds. The only way I was able to get rid of it at my old house was to dig it up, and the roots were huge and went on and on forever! Good luck. You will not regret the hard work.


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 Post subject: euonymous
PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2007 11:23 pm 
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This junk is definitely euonymous. Nothing but had that verified with sad results for a quick removal. But making alot of headway. Sprayed one section with brush killer will dig totally out lay down a cloth barrier and dump a load of topsoil over it. And that is the quickest way to deal with it. The part closest to the city easement will take some thinking cause it climbs barriers and the birds aren't helping. I have removed every bit of virginia creeper I had now--totally gone. Hand pulled all the poison ivy. Not one bit of wild onions left. Dandelions eliminated. But euonymous totally stinks. I'm marred for life by this one.


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